i bought the seeds from the same place and they were in the same ten pack but they look slightly different they are young though. also they have been transplanted three times in three weeks(wont do that again)maybe thats why they are kind of slow. anyways i bought a digital switchable ballast put in a 400 watt MH and it worked great........ for 24hours anyways then it went kaput @#$$%#^ oh well. so i think it might be the bulb so i go buy a 42 $ bulb at home dope and find out that its the ballast. so now i must shi9p it back and wait for a new one so now im back to 400 watt HPS only. oh well ill live. ill update in a few days. hey im surprised noone really cares about my grow usually people are so enthusiastic about em . well maybe once my babes grow into a couple of girls thanks again TBG