I am SOOOOOO PISSSSSSSED OFFFFF!

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the widowmaker said:
Ok. so

if someone makes a prank call, on the telephone and says some dirty words even if its harrasment thats not sex offence is it, thats just harrasment, restraining order whatever, the parents would choose.

To get on the sex offenders list has to involve an act of sex offence.

Looking at underage porn or doing anything with underage or rape gets you there, these acts are "SEXUALY OFFENSIVE",


Is making dirty phonecalls sexually offensive or just a nuisance?

Not sure man I think you can be on the list for all the chat room stuff. I watched a program recently on tele where they posed as 14/15 year olds in chat rooms to catch offenders trying to lure youngsters. These guys hadn't actually done anything sexual but were most probably planning to.

I agree about your wife tho FlyingHigh, where she has been through such an awful ordeal she should be your main concern. I know its tough to lose a mate, but it would be so much harder if this guy got to her and drove her away or worse.

I feel for you man, hope it all works out. Just make sure you can do everything in your power to make sure he's safe, and until then, don't answer the door to him :)
 
I don't have to worry to much I don't think because i don't let him come over to much and that just because I am not letting to many people into the yard because of the Dogs, All our visit r at his house and friends house, that because I live out in the country and he in town and Plus he don't have a car or anything he lost his lic do to a seizers so he can't drive... that a Plus.
The only way he comes out to my house is that I pick him up and take him home and usually i know I am going back out later...

Yes I take great PRIDE in MY WIFES she comes FISRT and the same with our Grand Kids.!!! Over Anybody!!

Keep It Real
Keep It Clean
Keep It Green
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Thorn said:
Not sure man I think you can be on the list for all the chat room stuff. I watched a program recently on tele where they posed as 14/15 year olds in chat rooms to catch offenders trying to lure youngsters. These guys hadn't actually done anything sexual but were most probably planning to.
Would that make it ok?:eek:

Yeah your right, thats nothing
 
the widowmaker said:
Would that make it ok?:eek:

Yeah your right, thats nothing

No man thats def not all right. When i was a teen I used to talk in chat rooms and remember there just being SOOOOO many of these people constantly trying to talk to me and video conversations popping up all over the place with a guy feeling himself up. Maybe thats why I don't like Yahoo anymore. But all i'm saying is at least they didn't do anything physical to me like other people have. Most of these people aren't caught but they are still sex offenders.
 
Ive read this post from start to its fruition as it is at this moment and watched as people add to it, I do not condone any form of molestation, molestation can be any age, the molester is getting a power trip, ok, its sexual, its raw power dominating the situ at that time, the molester is of mental stability on par with stone, they will not change, the urge and desire they hold will never leave them, the only route to stopping their future crimes on the same matter is to not let the person have the chance, they have gone against all morals and not only stepped into the taboo arena, they strode in with vigour, in my eyes the only safe molester is a dead molester, frown upon me if you will, it is my thoughts and I will stand by them.

Not sure man I think you can be on the list for all the chat room stuff. I watched a program recently on tele where they posed as 14/15 year olds in chat rooms to catch offenders trying to lure youngsters. These guys hadn't actually done anything sexual but were most probably planning to.

This would have been engineered for the person to go further and further and would have been egged on by the people posing as a teenager, ok, the person may well have had something on his mind, but we all know how the system will let you drop yourself in the pool of crap before revealing themselves, im quite certain this thread still has more to run before it dies down.

I would have done what Dubb did, but in a dark silent place where only me and him stood face to face with no witnesses, my girls mean more to me than time inside and I would without a second thought give my life for them, you have my thumbs up Dubb, he would have been a non solved homicide if it was me in your shoes.

Ban me if you wish, I will not retract a word just typed.
 
those are some good words HIE, well said.

On that program it was very mutual and the people posing as teens and kids were very neutural in their chat and it showed some of the conversations online and it was very shocking, but not stuff I hadn't seen before. People who had been molested through means of meeting up after having 'met' in online chat rooms were also interviewed (anonomously) and these were molested by the same people that these experts were trying to catch.

My heart goes out to all of those here that have been in these situations and it honestly does shock me reading through this entire thread at how many people here have been and know people close to them that have been molested. I really feel for you and cannot begin to understand how it feels.

Peace.
 
Flyinghigh said:
I am SOOOOOOOO PiSSSSSSSED OFFFF I could never mind that word might get me into trouble..
I have a friend that been out of jail for 4 yr and met him through my Hep C group and he seems to be on the UP AND UP on things and we became friends and over time we became Good friends and I would kick him down from time time with local weed and I started to wonder about a few things.
1 No girlfriends
2 Never talked about females
3 He always talked about why he went to jail )Growing Mj he said
4 I was thinking he might be gay

We got to talking about growing our own MJ and here I thought I was Getting a Good friends To a share each other grow and have fun growing and I going to help him get set up and yes he seen my 2 females grow..Ops

I was going through wwwmeganslaw.ca.gov last night and I put in my friends name and there it was right there I was looking at his ***** Mug and I Fell back into my chair.
I want to CUZ On Here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I am SOOOO Hurt that I do know what I going to do except CUT Him LOOOSE as a Friend..
There is a Violation on him that megan laws is saying and that is because he didn't let them know he has Moved.

After seeing that I thought to myself that i better do a check on other friends around too..
Should I pull all my plant up now and quite for a while, or should I tell him that I pulled them up because the cop were to lose for comfort ( LIE )



Would u turn the check or turn him in?
how do you not turn in a sex offender? he rapes children .. if you turn the othercheek you are aiding in another child being raped... do the right thing.. turn him in
 
harvester said:
how do you not turn in a sex offender? he rapes children .. if you turn the othercheek you are aiding in another child being raped... do the right thing.. turn him in

Harvester I would turn him in and I am giving the web sight to get caught up and he said he has done his requirments every year.. And yes he had moved since the date they have on there and he also gone to court in the last 2 months on a public intox and seen the ticket so if there was a red flagg then he would have more problems...

I also Know he told me from the get in go, that he had gotten a Annoying charge against a minor and gotten 6 months and over phone prank..
But he didn't say he had to regiester every year as a sex affender is what I told him and to find this on meganslaw Blew my Mind..

Yea it makes me wonder if he is tell me the turth !! but he was on the ups about the Annoy charge, so give alittle credit there.
 
i hear ya the guy probly wants to be a better person and wants to be a friend and lead a normal life but he is what he is and it appears he lied to you allready so how can you trust in him?
 
and i think if you were ever convicted as a sex offender you have to register every year by law rehibalited or not
 
HippyInEngland said:
I would have done what Dubb did, but in a dark silent place where only me and him stood face to face with no witnesses, my girls mean more to me than time inside and I would without a second thought give my life for them, you have my thumbs up Dubb, he would have been a non solved homicide if it was me in your shoes.

This all happened before i ever had kids of my own too. If that would have been a part of the equation then, i really cant say that i would have ever stopped.
 
I belive in what u have been saying in so many way there Harvester, But the magenslaw came in effect while he was been charge with just Annoy and that word ANNOY can mean just about anything and no I am Not making any excuss for why he on magenlaw..
Annoy and Touching is 2 different things but it still can fall under different penale codes.
 
hey flyin
not saying you wrong or nothing but think about it
Annoy and Touching is 2 different things
now say someone had called ur daughter or son and started to tell them i want to lick thiers
or have them lick something of thiers.... now i know you would be upset.....
now its just my thoughts but to me thats is kinda sexual.... annoy might not have anything to do with toughing but it could have something to do with someone mentality state

again im not tring to say ur wrong
 
annscrib said:
hey flyin
not saying you wrong or nothing but think about it
Annoy and Touching is 2 different things
now say someone had called ur daughter or son and started to tell them i want to lick thiers
or have them lick something of thiers.... now i know you would be upset.....
now its just my thoughts but to me thats is kinda sexual.... annoy might not have anything to do with toughing but it could have something to do with someone mentality state

again im not tring to say ur wrong

This subject has gone alone ways and Yes I have thought about what u ALL said and Yes if there was a phone call and it was prank thing going on and talkin with my Daughter I would get upset !!
But I Wouldn't take it to the extreme to have him or her in Meganslaw for a Annoy or what there calling Annoy/Molest Children and I was going back through there agian and all those I see have LEWD OR LASCIVIOUS ACTS WITH CHILD UNDER 14 YEARS, CONTINUOUS SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILD, rap and so on..

Did anyone watch 20/20 last night??
The law has some what gone to far with Teens these days and those Male Teen that was 18 and Dating a 14 yr old and Yes Dad and Mom tryed to stop the dating but a parent can't watch there girls all the time when they leave the house, Yes that alittle young but girls are more mature then Boys at that age,
Dad Got mad at this Boy and had him arrested and he is now on Meganslaw and is that Right or Not ??
Watching Tv is where it says it ok to Teens and Tv has a Big Role in Kids these days in Sex, Drinking, Drugs, and there some programs I WON"T let my Grand kids watch like Simpson,Family guy, Beaves and Butt head, South Park should I go on and I know u All have watch some of those Cartoons on Saturday !!
What u think about kids learnning it Ok to Beat Up someone or go Shoot up a town ? Really think about what u watch with the Kids of all ages, My grandson 10 stays with us while he goes to school and he watches some of the movies we watch and he has ACTED OUT on some of those Movies and yes we Monitor what he watches.

Is it Alright for a Girl Teen to wear a Thong Baby suite for All males to See ?
Girls Now days are Showing to MUCH SKIN !! Young or Old...
Is it alright for aBoy to wear his Boxers up past his Belly Button and his pants Down to his Knees?

I am Not defending this guy but if he had his Paper work on this and show people that it was over a prank phone call then he be ok and people would have a better understand and that all Annoy people isn't all bad..

Annoy is what we all have..!!
 
ive read and re read this thread and i cannot believe you havnt cut this guy loose by now for good ,,,
him being on megans law and not telling you about it says it all in my opinion (phonecall charge or not ) he still withheld the fact he has to register!

Girls Now days are Showing to MUCH SKIN !! Young or Old...
Is it alright for aBoy to wear his Boxers up past his Belly Button and his pants Down to his Knees?
do this give any bdy the right to molest them in anyway ?
The law has some what gone to far with Teens these days and those Male Teen that was 18 and Dating a 14 yr old and Yes Dad and Mom tryed to stop the dating but a parent can't watch there girls all the time when they leave the house, Yes that alittle young but girls are more mature then Boys at that age,
Dad Got mad at this Boy and had him arrested and he is now on Meganslaw and is that Right or Not ??
yes if he engaged in any sexual contact with her ,,,consenting or not ,,
imo what does an 18 yrold male want to go out with a 14 yr old girl for
my daughter is 14 and i would be very worried as to why a male of 18 who can go out drinking and do other adult things want to spend his spare time with someone who has a curfew,homework ect ,,,
 
melissa said:
ive read and re read this thread and i cannot believe you havnt cut this guy loose by now for good ,,,
him being on megans law and not telling you about it says it all in my opinion (phonecall charge or not ) he still withheld the fact he has to register!


do this give any bdy the right to molest them in anyway ?

yes if he engaged in any sexual contact with her ,,,consenting or not ,,
imo what does an 18 yrold male want to go out with a 14 yr old girl for
my daughter is 14 and i would be very worried as to why a male of 18 who can go out drinking and do other adult things want to spend his spare time with someone who has a curfew,homework ect ,,,


I agree with you Melissa. It doesn't matter to me whether or not he touched a kid the fact is he has an "annoying charge with a kid" against him. He did not get the charge by chatting online, you get charged by taking the next step. No offence FlyinHigh but your refusal to see your "friend" for what he is, a predator, is the type of thinking that causes innocent kids to be molested. Hell, invite him over maybe with some luck he can rape one of your grandkids or even wife when you aren't around. Like I said, no offence to you I love your posts, but I doubt you want to be looking back at this 5 years from now and God forbid he did something to hurt your family. It doesn't make you a bad person to cut someone off completely to protect your family; it does however make you very irresponsible to not protect them from him.
 
hey
yea i agree with you all but that comment about letting him come over to flyin house.... ok i guess since what i had gone thru when i was a child that comment didnt sit right with me at all

flyin yes hun i do understand and agree with what you said in last thread back around xmas this pass year my 17 year old got lock up (kiddie jail) when up there to see him one night and i seen this lady her son was good friends with mine and she works for the bank that i use..... i look at her and was like what in the world are you here then she told her that is 17 was messing with this 13 or 14 year old girl her dad found out and he ended up in jail looking at alot of time cause this to,,,,,,,well one day was at a friends house and didnt even relize he lived next door to this girl and while i was there she had came over,,,,,, when i had relized who she was i had to sit down litterally to look at this girl i swear she look like she was 16 after she left i asked my friend if that was the girl thorn (the kid) got in trouble for he said yes

ok my point is it does happen way to much to these young boys when its just as much the girls fault as it is the boys.. my thoughts but thats not molest that just to kids that are exterimenting not saying thats right but they are growing up

ok im done before i start rambling on this subject gets to my badly
 
the widowmaker said:
I have kids and the idea of any kind of child abuse turns my stomach.

Personally friend or no friend, i'd tie him to a chair and pull out his finger and toe nails with a pair of pliers.

Im with widow maker on this one, child abuse is sick!!! kill him...jk :hitchair: :hitchair: :hitchair: :hitchair:
 
octobong007 said:
hiya canna man, umm, this is the coffee table, try to read the details of it on the forum list page...its all kewl, we all learn when we're new.
:eek: :eek: :eek:

your right, im a ******* i didint even notice that
 
the widowmaker said:
Actually thinking about it more, wouldn't you have to be convicted of something in a court of law to get on the offenders list, its a pretty serious list with pretty serious consequences should you be on it.

Is dirty phone calls something you could get convicted for?

Good point.
I lost a friend this way years ago.I don't know what possessed him to do what he did.
I quit having anything to do with him, alot because my wife went through that when she was young.
To this day I will acknowledge him in public, but thats as far as it goes.
Persons whose pictures are on that site are there because they are a danger to children.
Not because they call someone on the phone.


Gb
 

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