To flush or not to flush? That is the question...

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What would you do?

  • Flush and chop in a few days

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • Don't flush/chop now

    Votes: 3 42.9%
  • Don't flush/chop in a few days

    Votes: 1 14.3%

  • Total voters
    7
Flush or dont flush 😂 😂 😂


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In other words, there is not really a noticeable difference between the two, and when it comes to Rosenthal and Dr. Robb – they both agree that “if there is no difference, then flushing is okay because it reduces the need for using nutrients”. Meaning that flushing doesn’t have an impact on the bud itself, but could be a more cost-efficient strategy since you’re saving on nutrients.

For small-scale growers, this might not be a significant cost, but as you scale up your operations – the savings would compound over time. There is an incentive to flush, it’s just not what you thought it was.

Some Redditors also pointed out this study which concluded;

Three treatments; control (irrigation events every 1-2 days), mild-stress (irrigation events every 2 days), and moderate-stress (irrigation events every 3 days) were tested. The effects of flushing were also investigated to determine whether it had the intended effect of reducing nutrient concentrations within the dried bud. Through the use of psychrometers, water status (cWP) thresholds were correlated with humidity (cVPD) thresholds and reduced irrigation frequency resulting in water use reductions up to 45.7% which had negligible impacts on yield and cannabinoid profile. Flushing was found to be ineffective in removing any significant amount of nutrient from the bud.
 
Drying and curing is the most important step in all of production. You can be the best cultivator on the planet, but your flower will be worthless if it doesn't have a good nose on it. As soon as you harvest your crop, you immediately switch from terpene production mode to terpene retention mode. Some of the monoterpenes in cannabis will start volatizing at temperatures as low as 70F, so it is important to get your crop into a controlled environment as fast as possible after harvest. For a conventional dry space, you will want uniform air movement, ~55% relative humidity, and 60F for the environmentals, but getting it in a cool, dark environment as fast as possible is key.

Ed says: "I am a big fan of a drying product made by CryoCure. They do a freeze dry method and their terpene retention is better than anything I've ever seen. The taste is great, but most importantly the smoke is smooth. CryoCure's method was based on observations from my earlier version of the Cannabis Grower's Handbook using a standard freezer with a slight vacuum to freeze dry it. Their new technology is much more sophisticated now, though." – Doctor Robsenthall (Rosenthal + Robb)
 
Your turn Pute.😂😂😂 I heard that. Stop cussing me. 😁
 
Hopper for every article you can come up with on not flushing I can come up with one saying you should. This is from Advanced Nutrients website.






Within the world of cultivation, there seems to be debate over the topic of plant flushing. Opponents of the technique believe that flushing plants prior to harvest will rob them of vital nutrients — an obviously bad idea. On the other side of the divide, advocates proclaim that flushing frees the plants of excess nutrients and contaminants and leads to an overall higher-quality product.
In this article, we’ll explore the truth about flushing: Precisely what it is, why it’s so important for growers to flush their plants, and the best way to go about flushing for maximum benefit.

What Is Flushing And Who Should Do It?​

Before we get into the reasons why flushing your plants is so important, we need to understand exactly what flushing is.
Flushing involves watering your plants without any added nutrients for a period of time — anywhere from a day or two to a week or more, depending on your growing medium — prior to harvesting. The purpose of this is to allow the plants time to use up the nutrients that have already built up within them, thereby lessening the overall nutrient and contaminant load of the final product.
We recommend flushing for growers of all types, whether hydro, coco coir or soil — though the time period for flushing will vary, depending on the medium.

The Importance Of Flushing​

Though some in the industry have argued otherwise, the importance of flushing your plants has been affirmed by the vast majority of serious growers. Most experienced cultivators have tried not flushing before harvest, which has caused them to experience first-hand the glaring difference in quality of the yield.
You see, during the growing cycle, your plants store excess amounts of nutrients, salts and other compounds. If you don’t allow the plants a chance to dispose of these surplus compounds by flushing them before harvest, your final product will be much harsher and more bitter tasting. Failing to flush can also cause your product to suffer from other negative side effects, such as black ash and an unpleasant chemical taste and smell.
The truth is, not flushing nutrients before harvest can seriously compromise the quality of your high-value crops.

To Flush Or Not To Flush: Examining The Arguments For And Against​

Despite the overwhelming majority of growers who understand the importance of flushing plants and have verified its benefits through their own practice, there are some who argue against it.
The anti-flushers make a few bold claims, including:
  1. Robbing plants of nutrients at any stage of the grow cycle is counterproductive and does not benefit growth in any way.
  2. Once nutrients are absorbed into the plant tissues, they are there permanently. The plant cannot expel them or use them up simply by denying it more nutrients.
  3. If flushing was in fact a beneficial practice, then plants grown in hydro would always taste better than plants grown in soil because soil cannot be effectively flushed.
  4. Withholding nutrients causes stress to the plants, which impedes growth rather than encouraging it.
  5. Flushing plants is “pseudoscience” that has not been supported or backed by any legitimate scientific studies.

Let’s address these anti-flushing arguments one by one.
  1. Flushing your plants does not involve robbing them of nutrients. On the contrary, flushing allows your plants the chance to use the excess nutrients they have accumulated throughout the grow cycle. When you feed your crops full nutrient loads right up until the time of harvest, they retain an overabundance of compounds that affect the quality of the final product — including its taste, smell and overall smoothness.It’s also important to note that the main purpose behind flushing plants is not to encourage substantial new growth — although, flushing can cause your crop’s floral blooms to swell, since plants are not expelling all their energy on nutrient uptake.
  2. Any grower who has experienced nutrient burn knows the argument that plants cannot expel excess nutrients holds no weight. Ask any seasoned cultivator how to fix nutrient burn and they will tell you: You need to flush your plants and allow them time to use up the excess nutrients.The same logic applies to pre-harvest flushing. You’re giving your plants just enough time to use up surplus nutrients, salts and other compounds.
  3. The argument that soil can’t be effectively flushed is simply illogical and just plain wrong. Plants grown in soil can be flushed — it just takes a longer period of time than flushing plants grown in hydro or coco.
  4. It’s true that withholding nutrients places stress on plants and causes them to increase defense compounds. However, in certain plants, the primary defense compounds are actually the most desirable constituents, so flushing before harvest can significantly increase the value of the final product.
  5. At Advanced Nutrients, we employ the largest team of Ph.D. botanists, microbiologists, entomologists, hormone specialists and organic chemists in the industry. These scientists are dedicated solely to studying cultivation best practices and are constantly conducting laboratory research. The notion that plant flushing is “pseudoscience” is simply absurd.

The Truth About Flushing​

Flushing plants before harvest is indeed a beneficial practice. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. In truth, the anti-flushers make a valid point when they say that flushing can rob your plants of nutrients — IF you are flushing with just plain water.
The fact is, flushing with plain water can cause your plants to lose some floral growth and resin percentages. This is why it’s critical that you use a quality flushing agent that is designed specifically for the type of plants you grow.
When it comes to a flushing agent, you want to be sure to use one that contains a range of chelates. Chelates are organic compounds that can bind with other chemicals and substances. During the flushing process, these chelates will attach themselves to the excess nutrients, salts and other compounds in your plants and force them out.
At the same time, your plants utilize the stored nutrients they need during these last few days and hours prior to harvest. A high-quality flushing agent will provide your plants the support they need through this process, along with assisting them in purging the excess compounds that you don’t want in your final product.

Timing Is Key: When To Flush Your Plants​

Along with using the right flushing agent, you need to ensure you’re flushing at the right time in order to reap the maximum benefits of flushing. Use the following as guidelines for flushing plants prior to harvest:
  • If you’re growing in soil, begin flushing between one and two weeks before harvest.
  • If you’re growing in coco, flush your plants for up to one week prior to harvest.
  • If you’re growing in hydro, your plants only need to be flushed for one to two days.

Of course, you’ll need to monitor your crops closely during the flushing process to ensure they don’t turn too yellow. Adjust your flushing times as necessary to find the ideal time for your plants.
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If it’s yellow, let it mellow. If it’s brown, flush it down.
 
Hopper for every article you can come up with on not flushing I can come up with one saying you should. This is from Advanced Nutrients website.






Within the world of cultivation, there seems to be debate over the topic of plant flushing. Opponents of the technique believe that flushing plants prior to harvest will rob them of vital nutrients — an obviously bad idea. On the other side of the divide, advocates proclaim that flushing frees the plants of excess nutrients and contaminants and leads to an overall higher-quality product.
In this article, we’ll explore the truth about flushing: Precisely what it is, why it’s so important for growers to flush their plants, and the best way to go about flushing for maximum benefit.

What Is Flushing And Who Should Do It?​

Before we get into the reasons why flushing your plants is so important, we need to understand exactly what flushing is.
Flushing involves watering your plants without any added nutrients for a period of time — anywhere from a day or two to a week or more, depending on your growing medium — prior to harvesting. The purpose of this is to allow the plants time to use up the nutrients that have already built up within them, thereby lessening the overall nutrient and contaminant load of the final product.
We recommend flushing for growers of all types, whether hydro, coco coir or soil — though the time period for flushing will vary, depending on the medium.

The Importance Of Flushing​

Though some in the industry have argued otherwise, the importance of flushing your plants has been affirmed by the vast majority of serious growers. Most experienced cultivators have tried not flushing before harvest, which has caused them to experience first-hand the glaring difference in quality of the yield.
You see, during the growing cycle, your plants store excess amounts of nutrients, salts and other compounds. If you don’t allow the plants a chance to dispose of these surplus compounds by flushing them before harvest, your final product will be much harsher and more bitter tasting. Failing to flush can also cause your product to suffer from other negative side effects, such as black ash and an unpleasant chemical taste and smell.
The truth is, not flushing nutrients before harvest can seriously compromise the quality of your high-value crops.

To Flush Or Not To Flush: Examining The Arguments For And Against​

Despite the overwhelming majority of growers who understand the importance of flushing plants and have verified its benefits through their own practice, there are some who argue against it.
The anti-flushers make a few bold claims, including:
  1. Robbing plants of nutrients at any stage of the grow cycle is counterproductive and does not benefit growth in any way.
  2. Once nutrients are absorbed into the plant tissues, they are there permanently. The plant cannot expel them or use them up simply by denying it more nutrients.
  3. If flushing was in fact a beneficial practice, then plants grown in hydro would always taste better than plants grown in soil because soil cannot be effectively flushed.
  4. Withholding nutrients causes stress to the plants, which impedes growth rather than encouraging it.
  5. Flushing plants is “pseudoscience” that has not been supported or backed by any legitimate scientific studies.

Let’s address these anti-flushing arguments one by one.
  1. Flushing your plants does not involve robbing them of nutrients. On the contrary, flushing allows your plants the chance to use the excess nutrients they have accumulated throughout the grow cycle. When you feed your crops full nutrient loads right up until the time of harvest, they retain an overabundance of compounds that affect the quality of the final product — including its taste, smell and overall smoothness.It’s also important to note that the main purpose behind flushing plants is not to encourage substantial new growth — although, flushing can cause your crop’s floral blooms to swell, since plants are not expelling all their energy on nutrient uptake.
  2. Any grower who has experienced nutrient burn knows the argument that plants cannot expel excess nutrients holds no weight. Ask any seasoned cultivator how to fix nutrient burn and they will tell you: You need to flush your plants and allow them time to use up the excess nutrients.The same logic applies to pre-harvest flushing. You’re giving your plants just enough time to use up surplus nutrients, salts and other compounds.
  3. The argument that soil can’t be effectively flushed is simply illogical and just plain wrong. Plants grown in soil can be flushed — it just takes a longer period of time than flushing plants grown in hydro or coco.
  4. It’s true that withholding nutrients places stress on plants and causes them to increase defense compounds. However, in certain plants, the primary defense compounds are actually the most desirable constituents, so flushing before harvest can significantly increase the value of the final product.
  5. At Advanced Nutrients, we employ the largest team of Ph.D. botanists, microbiologists, entomologists, hormone specialists and organic chemists in the industry. These scientists are dedicated solely to studying cultivation best practices and are constantly conducting laboratory research. The notion that plant flushing is “pseudoscience” is simply absurd.

The Truth About Flushing​

Flushing plants before harvest is indeed a beneficial practice. However, there is a right way and a wrong way to go about it. In truth, the anti-flushers make a valid point when they say that flushing can rob your plants of nutrients — IF you are flushing with just plain water.
The fact is, flushing with plain water can cause your plants to lose some floral growth and resin percentages. This is why it’s critical that you use a quality flushing agent that is designed specifically for the type of plants you grow.
When it comes to a flushing agent, you want to be sure to use one that contains a range of chelates. Chelates are organic compounds that can bind with other chemicals and substances. During the flushing process, these chelates will attach themselves to the excess nutrients, salts and other compounds in your plants and force them out.
At the same time, your plants utilize the stored nutrients they need during these last few days and hours prior to harvest. A high-quality flushing agent will provide your plants the support they need through this process, along with assisting them in purging the excess compounds that you don’t want in your final product.

Timing Is Key: When To Flush Your Plants​

Along with using the right flushing agent, you need to ensure you’re flushing at the right time in order to reap the maximum benefits of flushing. Use the following as guidelines for flushing plants prior to harvest:
  • If you’re growing in soil, begin flushing between one and two weeks before harvest.
  • If you’re growing in coco, flush your plants for up to one week prior to harvest.
  • If you’re growing in hydro, your plants only need to be flushed for one to two days.

Of course, you’ll need to monitor your crops closely during the flushing process to ensure they don’t turn too yellow. Adjust your flushing times as necessary to find the ideal time for your plants.
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I can find 10 for every one those articles that says they are full of shit. Besides they don't want to piss off guys like you who still flush.. They unlike the Media need all their customers. They have been proven wrong in many side-by-side grows done by botanists in Labs just in the last couple of years.
I have smoked both and have never tasted the difference. But again we will have to agree to disagree. I will go with the science. Got to wonder how old that article is.
I actually have done a side-by-side a several years back in Florida with a bag seed strain and could not tell the difference and neither could my friends. It was really good weed. Now i wasn't in a Lab but i fed them the same thing at the same time and water them the same. They were clones. If I'm not mistaken i posted in on here back in 2009. Ill look for it. Not that it will change your mind.
Hey I'm pretty hard-headed too brother on certain things like religion. So i get it. Thats your belive and that's cool. Im just answering the threads question with the science that is available.
Besides me and you agree on a lot of things. Like never go camping with Hippie. 😁
 
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If you're happy and you grow it clap your hands.....If you're happy and you grow it clap your hands. If you're happy and you grow it and everybody's happy that you grow it.....then you are happy that you grow it so clap your hands.........🙌

Last post here.... If you like what you are doing don't change a thing......I judge my grow by what my friends say and I am in a place where It is pretty fkn easy to find.
I can find 10 for every one of your one that says they are full of shit. Besides they don't want to piss off guys like you who still flush no matter what the science is. They unlike the Media need all their customers. They have been proven wrong in many side-by-side grows done by botanists in Labs just in the last couple of years.
I have smoked both and have never tasted the difference. But again we will have to agree to disagree. I will go with the science. Got to wonder how old that article is.
I actually have done a side-by-side a several years back in Florida with a bag seed strain and could not tell the difference and neither could my friends. It was really good weed. Now i wasn't in a Lab but i fed them the same thing at the same time and water them the same. They were clones. If I'm not mistaken i posted in on here back in 2009. Ill look for it. Not that it will change your mind.
Hey I'm pretty hard-headed too brother on certain things like religion. So i get it. Thats your belive and that's cool. Im just answering the threads question with the science that is available.
Besides me and you agree on a lot of things. Like never GOP camping with Hippie. 😁
Wow, that is deep. 🤕
 
Put your waders on ya mean old bastard. The ones you fish in. 😂 😂 😂
 
Looks like a rabbit. Cool as hell. Very nice brother.
 
Ok so how the hell do you a space to 60 degrees and 60rh? I don't think I want to drive my plant to the hydrostore to put in their cannatrol...I might do half, but I was thinking about setting up a closet as a dry space....how would I go about that?
 

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