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good morning...Ok all it's grow help time.

I'm growing from seed this summer, first time in 30 years starting from seed. Would you all start them under lights indoors or wait and start them in the greenhouse with the rest of my garden plants? I'm thinking do the greenhouse. 3 years ago I started my tobacco plants in the greenhouse and they did great. I guess I'm answering my own question, but I need reinforcement. It's like I'm starting all over this year. I'm so use to doing clones . Damn will have to do some clones for the friends just to feel right.

what do the rest of you seed planters do?
 
Morning O.F.C. ! -- Bozzo I'm with U about starting seed !-- I would start the seed early and move them outside when weather permits -- This ain't coming from a seed specialist - Now that I got me a T.E. Lady to clone -- I won't need to mess with seed for awhile !-- I started the T.E. in dirt and introduced the spider mite to my grow !-- I paid a price for that !-- I need to check on the Fortress of Solitude this morning -- make sure that P.C. hasn't popped out any balls !--Good Day to All !
 
good morning...Ok all it's grow help time.

I'm growing from seed this summer, first time in 30 years starting from seed. Would you all start them under lights indoors or wait and start them in the greenhouse with the rest of my garden plants? I'm thinking do the greenhouse. 3 years ago I started my tobacco plants in the greenhouse and they did great. I guess I'm answering my own question, but I need reinforcement. It's like I'm starting all over this year. I'm so use to doing clones . Damn will have to do some clones for the friends just to feel right.

what do the rest of you seed planters do?

bozzo,
The method that I have settled on using results in 90%-!00% germination rate. I use coco coir pots, 3" & 6", along with Sunshine Mix #4. Scarify the seeds slightly. Sand paper inside an empty toilet paper roll will do the trick. Put the seed about 1/4" deep in the 3" pot and keep damp. They need to be in a humid environment to start with. I use an opaque tote box as a mini greenhouse. After sprouting and out growing the small pot you transplant the pot and all into the 6" coco coir pot. Then into the permanent pot. NO transplant shock using this method.
 
Mornin', Old Farts. Got a bit crispy last night. Alcohol is EVIL!

Keef, figure $500 or less for a nice setup. They measure CO2 in PPMs. Normal indoor CO2 can range from 300-700. You're going to want to shoot for around 1400.

I picked up a nice controller off of ebay for $200, and an electric valve/flow meter for $50.
You can rent the tank or buy a nice aluminum one for around a hundred. It's fifteen bucks around here to fill a twenty pounder. How often you need to fill the tank depends on how sealed your room is. A friend of mine goes through a tank every two weeks. I use one every two months or so.

Does added CO2 really make a difference? I think so.
 
Thanks Hippie !-- The grow room is coming along nicely !-- had to do some carpentry yesterday but now I can add my final 2 boxes -- moving Veg. So I can have 8 boxes in bloom -- Veg with have 3 - 40 spot cloners- take 40 cuts every 2 week's --move 2 boxes of 20 to bloom every 2 week's -- Got 6 T.E. clones I'll hold back for a few weeks as a source of clones !- before I move veg -- I got a honeymoon suite sent up for the Elephant King and his chosen Ladies ! This ain't no random breeding ! I have a plan !
 
Late as always, catch up in progress. Spraying for bugs has become second nature out here. I spray every grow whether I see them or not. Spraying today.
 
Umbra - U said something the other day about your identity !-- Cuz - this is the O.F.C. !-- it don't matter if U have some letters in front of your name or if your name has a hyphen in it ! U just a brother from another mother to us !-- I don't care if U really be Prince Charles or a Vanderbilt -- U still just Umbra to us !-- When I'm ready to add another variety , U got a reputation to uphold !-- This T.E. is perfect for what I do !-- U better be looking for something outstanding to top this T.E. ! I'm already a believer but 2 in a row would seal the deal !-- Find me a monster and I'll grow it !-- Who knows - Green Santa might develop a way to overnight clones ! Wierder things have happened !
 
Had a wonderful daydream !-- Wonder how many pounds an undeveloped tropic island off Belize or Honduras would cost ?-- I was thinking maybe a O.F.C. snow bird partial retirement resort !-- I 'm not talking a fancy umbrella drink place -- I'm going about a place where the O.F.C. could do it's top secret breeding program and members could build their own little place - permanent or part time !-- If nothing more than a place for the O.F.C. to vacation among those they've only met on line !-- Big bonfire - passing around some of Kraven's aged Apple Pie 'Shine !-- Big ole moon !-- trying out the latest varieties Umbra done bred or discussing the nuances of Hippies latest batch of bubble hash ! Just a day dream but sounds like a party to me !
 
Before U laugh ole Krazy Keef off -- Just remember weed done paid for lots of dreams !-- a down payment and weed pays for the rest !-- U know with a market I might just do something like that on my own ! Forget I said anything !-- How many crops a year could U grow down there anyway ?
 
Keef, no worries...I'm not a Vanderbilt or a Kennedy. I have been to Belize. The local weed is called Belize breeze. It would make a great place to grow. I will always worry about folks figuring out who I am, lol. Someone here figured it out a few years ago. He is no longer here and I figured my secret is safe.
 
Cuz - U Umbra that's enough for me ! -- One day when prohibition ends maybe "Umbra" will breed a monster for ole Keef !-- I still think U know of some G.E. weed and one day maybe I can get a cut off one !-- I don't need to know what it is where it come from as long as the bud does the talking ! It would be well cared for ! U ain't Reagan Jr. Or one of them Rand Paul boys are U ? U not kin to Ted Cruz are U? As far as I'm concerned U in the O.F.C. Witless Protection Program ?
 
No I'm not one of those either. When I was a kid, I had a Big Brother. You know, Big Brothers of America for kids without Dads. He was a Republican to the max. I remember him making me campaign for Richard Nixon, lol. We had a parting of the ways when I lit up a cigarette. He told me he would rather that I smoked a joint than a cigarette, so I lit a joint up and passed it to him. I guess I was 13 then.
 
Keef, I'm with ya on the island! Can I be in charge of ordnance? Gotta have some sort of security down that way. All kinds of bad folks running around thanks to the white powder trade. Maybe we'll have an underground hidie-hole!

You just reminded me when you mentioned bubble hash. I was supposed to swap over from weed to bubble yesterday. What will I do?:)
 
Had a wonderful daydream !-- Wonder how many pounds an undeveloped tropic island off Belize or Honduras would cost ?-- I was thinking maybe a O.F.C. snow bird partial retirement resort !-- I 'm not talking a fancy umbrella drink place -- I'm going about a place where the O.F.C. could do it's top secret breeding program and members could build their own little place - permanent or part time !-- If nothing more than a place for the O.F.C. to vacation among those they've only met on line !-- Big bonfire - passing around some of Kraven's aged Apple Pie 'Shine !-- Big ole moon !-- trying out the latest varieties Umbra done bred or discussing the nuances of Hippies latest batch of bubble hash ! Just a day dream but sounds like a party to me !


dern skippy! thats sounds like the place i wanna be ...FOREVER. What a gorgeous daydream.....Keef rocks!:48:
 
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